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PostSubject: Movie/Television Adaptations of Books   Sun Dec 07, 2008 7:39 pm

You know, movies/tv are forms of literary art as well. Sometimes when directors take books to the screen, they completely butcher it. In other cases, it serves to glorify the book even more.

I could go either way on movie adaptations in general, but I LOVE the 1995 BBC TV adaptation of Pride and Prejudice starring Jennifer Ehle and Colin Firth. I also loved the 1983 BBC adaptation of Jane Eyre starring Zelah Clarke and Timothy Dalton.

Actually, BBC just plain rocks, in my opinion.

So what is your take on movie adaptations of books and what is your favorite movie/tv adaptation(s)?
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PostSubject: Re: Movie/Television Adaptations of Books   Sun Dec 07, 2008 7:42 pm

I love Stephen King movies, I hate his books.
I love Dean Koontz books, they butchered them when they made the movies.
There are few cases I can state where the movie has actually been better than the book.
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PostSubject: Re: Movie/Television Adaptations of Books   Sun Dec 07, 2008 7:43 pm

There are some adaptations that are simply wrong from beginning to end, such as the crap they made out of "Memoirs of a Geisha". For this belief, I have several reasons:
- If I want to make a movie out of a book, I try to keep close to the text, but the feel of the movie is an entirely different one (at least to me).
- If I want to make a movie about a world so specific and unfamiliar as the Geishas', I try and do my homework before making obvious, blatant mistakes - I have never, ever seen a movie that presented something in such a twisted, false way.

But most adaptations I have seen were very good. It seems as if movies made from Jane Austen novels could never go wrong, although I am convinced that Keira Knightley is too pretty to be a Lizzie Bennet. Also, I loved Bar Luhrman's "Romeo and Juliet", and "Of Mice and Men" with Jeremy Irons was painfully marvellous.
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PostSubject: Re: Movie/Television Adaptations of Books   Sun Dec 07, 2008 7:51 pm

Ick. They butchered "Memoirs of a Geisha". End of story.

That has got to be one of my pet peeves: seeing something that is anachronistic. I absolutely loathe it when people don't stick to period things.

This is where the whole Keira Knightley version of Pride and Prejudice seems to come in. I thought that Keira as Lizzy Bennet was actually too underdressed and informal to represent that time accurately enough. I mean, her hair is down on several scenes and in reality, it would have started gossip back then.

I don't see how hard it is to stick to the book. Yeah, there are time constraint, but either cut out the most unimportant stuff or make several movies/episodes. It can't be that hard...
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PostSubject: Re: Movie/Television Adaptations of Books   Sun Dec 07, 2008 7:53 pm

Dean Koontz's novel "Watchers" was made into a movie and they got is so wrong that the only thing that the movie and the book had in common was the golden retriever.
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PostSubject: Re: Movie/Television Adaptations of Books   Sun Dec 07, 2008 10:24 pm

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You know, movies/tv are forms of literary art as well. Sometimes when directors take books to the screen, they completely butcher it. In other cases, it serves to glorify the book even more.

I could go either way on movie adaptations in general, but I LOVE the 1995 BBC TV adaptation of Pride and Prejudice starring Jennifer Ehle and Colin Firth. I also loved the 1983 BBC adaptation of Jane Eyre starring Zelah Clarke and Timothy Dalton.

Actually, BBC just plain rocks, in my opinion.

So what is your take on movie adaptations of books and what is your favorite movie/tv adaptation(s)?

I wasn't too fond of Pride and Prejudice in the first place. It was too slow for me, and I felt the characters were just frivolous. However, I heard the BBC versions trumps the book--well, my teacher says she loves the movie A LOT better than the book.
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PostSubject: Re: Movie/Television Adaptations of Books   Sun Dec 07, 2008 10:27 pm

I'm not sure if the adaptation is better than the book--I personally loved the book. But I see where you are coming from. A lot of my friends thought that the book dragged in some parts--although I disagree.

But the movie was pretty awesome. I know a LOT of people who strongly prefer the movie (1995 BBC version) to the book.

Unfortunately, though, I don't think that most books have half-way decent movie adaptations. In fact, some movies really ruined the corresponding books (Eragon, anybody?).
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PostSubject: Re: Movie/Television Adaptations of Books   Sun Dec 07, 2008 10:35 pm

God, Eragon was AWFUL! Some parts did not make sense at all, like how Sephora just randomly was this huge dragon when she came out of the sky.

I mean, Paolini is okay, but the books aren't entirely original. I haven't read Brisingr yet, but some people have told me that his writing has improved some.
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PostSubject: Re: Movie/Television Adaptations of Books   Sun Dec 07, 2008 10:37 pm

Or the versions in which they leave out 9/10 of the novel to make it fit the time span dictated by the movies - think of Harry Potter Part V. I watched it with my mum, who hadn't read the Order of the Phoenix yet, and she was completely lost after around two minutes.

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PostSubject: Re: Movie/Television Adaptations of Books   Sun Dec 07, 2008 10:40 pm

The Harry Potter movies for me are fun to watch. I hear that they're supposed to be making the seventh book into two parts because they want to incorporate as much as the seventh book possible. I like the books better though.
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PostSubject: Re: Movie/Television Adaptations of Books   Sun Dec 07, 2008 10:49 pm

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The Harry Potter movies for me are fun to watch. I hear that they're supposed to be making the seventh book into two parts because they want to incorporate as much as the seventh book possible. I like the books better though.

I think that it is a better idea to make two separate movies from one book than to just cut parts out to have everything fit into one movie. Do y'all agree?
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PostSubject: Re: Movie/Television Adaptations of Books   Sun Dec 07, 2008 10:50 pm

YES YES YES!!! bounce bounce bounce

Edit: Of course, not to see more of Daniel Radcliffe, but to see more of Snape. Hopefully. Oh God. Now my concentration's ruined for the rest of the night.

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PostSubject: Re: Movie/Television Adaptations of Books   Sun Dec 07, 2008 10:57 pm

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YES YES YES!!! bounce bounce bounce

Edit: Of course, not to see more of Daniel Radcliffe, but to see more of Snape. Hopefully. Oh God. Now my concentration's ruined for the rest of the night.

Sorry Embarassed . Well, at least now you have a *legit* reason to waste time.
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PostSubject: Re: Movie/Television Adaptations of Books   Sun Dec 07, 2008 11:49 pm

I don't mind if an adaptation changes some things--to a point. I don't expect the book and movie to be the same, but I do expect them to follow the basic plot and have the same "meaning" if you know what I mean--to be the same type of thing the book was. And good acting, of course.

For instance, take the 1998 adaptation of Les Miserables. The acting was absolutely wonderful, but many plot points were changed. Because of certain changes made, I feel it doesn't fully encompass the spirit of the book--the struggles of many characters for freedom, yes, but not the struggle to do the right thing. All in all, it was a wonderful movie, but not a very good adaptation.

A movie that did do its job as an adaptation is The Princess Bride. Yes, some events were changed, such as the zoo of death and the ending, but it was still the same satirical fairy tale it was in the book.
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PostSubject: Re: Movie/Television Adaptations of Books   Mon Dec 08, 2008 12:00 am

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I don't mind if an adaptation changes some things--to a point. I don't expect the book and movie to be the same, but I do expect them to follow the basic plot and have the same "meaning" if you know what I mean--to be the same type of thing the book was. And good acting, of course.

For instance, take the 1998 adaptation of Les Miserables. The acting was absolutely wonderful, but many plot points were changed. Because of certain changes made, I feel it doesn't fully encompass the spirit of the book--the struggles of many characters for freedom, yes, but not the struggle to do the right thing. All in all, it was a wonderful movie, but not a very good adaptation.

A movie that did do its job as an adaptation is The Princess Bride. Yes, some events were changed, such as the zoo of death and the ending, but it was still the same satirical fairy tale it was in the book.

So you are suggesting that there are movies that are good movies, but not necessarily good adaptations, right? I think I agree with that statement.
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PostSubject: Re: Movie/Television Adaptations of Books   Thu Dec 11, 2008 1:12 am

I agree with the BBC Pride and Prejudice, but not the BBC Jane Eyre. I couldn't even finish it. The Masterpiece Theatre version with Toby Stephens as Rochester, however, is one of my favorite movies. It was amazing.

I also liked the 1980s Scarlet Pimpernel movie with Anthony Andrews and Jane Seymour. It wasn't anything like the book, but I thought the characters were portrayed perfectly.

Speaking of books made into movies, I come bearing news: Dorian Gray will be made into a film starring Ben Barnes, Jane Eyre will be made starring Ellen Page, and Wuthering Higts will be made (although I don't know who's starring in it. I'm so excited!
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PostSubject: Re: Movie/Television Adaptations of Books   Thu Dec 11, 2008 10:24 am

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There are some adaptations that are simply wrong from beginning to end, such as the crap they made out of "Memoirs of a Geisha". For this belief, I have several reasons:
- If I want to make a movie out of a book, I try to keep close to the text, but the feel of the movie is an entirely different one (at least to me).
- If I want to make a movie about a world so specific and unfamiliar as the Geishas', I try and do my homework before making obvious, blatant mistakes - I have never, ever seen a movie that presented something in such a twisted, false way.

But most adaptations I have seen were very good. It seems as if movies made from Jane Austen novels could never go wrong, although I am convinced that Keira Knightley is too pretty to be a Lizzie Bennet. Also, I loved Bar Luhrman's "Romeo and Juliet", and "Of Mice and Men" with Jeremy Irons was painfully marvellous.

Keira Knightley was too pretty to be Lizzy, but I think she did a wonderful job, so I forgave her for that. Matthew McFayden was a brilliant Mr Darcy.
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PostSubject: Re: Movie/Television Adaptations of Books   Thu Dec 11, 2008 10:26 am

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I agree with the BBC Pride and Prejudice, but not the BBC Jane Eyre. I couldn't even finish it. The Masterpiece Theatre version with Toby Stephens as Rochester, however, is one of my favorite movies. It was amazing.

I also liked the 1980s Scarlet Pimpernel movie with Anthony Andrews and Jane Seymour. It wasn't anything like the book, but I thought the characters were portrayed perfectly.

Speaking of books made into movies, I come bearing news: Dorian Gray will be made into a film starring Ben Barnes, Jane Eyre will be made starring Ellen Page, and Wuthering Higts will be made (although I don't know who's starring in it. I'm so excited!

Oh no!!! Dammit!!! Ben Barnes!?? Did you see the absolute FIASCO he was in Prince Caspian!? Please NO! Jane Eyre with Ellen Page sounds pretty cool. Wuthering Heights? Intriguing -- where did you find out?
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PostSubject: Re: Movie/Television Adaptations of Books   Thu Dec 11, 2008 10:28 am

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I wasn't too fond of Pride and Prejudice in the first place. It was too slow for me, and I felt the characters were just frivolous. However, I heard the BBC versions trumps the book--well, my teacher says she loves the movie A LOT better than the book.

Pride and Prejudice would be frivolous and boring if it was plain, Lizzy meets Mr Darcy, Lizzy doesn't like Darcy, Lizzy learns to like him, but what Jane Austen brings out is the depth of character in each individual, and the satire of that time, and the wit, it all transforms into something wonderful and charming.
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PostSubject: Re: Movie/Television Adaptations of Books   Tue Dec 16, 2008 6:06 am

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I agree with the BBC Pride and Prejudice, but not the BBC Jane Eyre. I couldn't even finish it. The Masterpiece Theatre version with Toby Stephens as Rochester, however, is one of my favorite movies. It was amazing.

I also liked the 1980s Scarlet Pimpernel movie with Anthony Andrews and Jane Seymour. It wasn't anything like the book, but I thought the characters were portrayed perfectly.

Speaking of books made into movies, I come bearing news: Dorian Gray will be made into a film starring Ben Barnes, Jane Eyre will be made starring Ellen Page, and Wuthering Higts will be made (although I don't know who's starring in it. I'm so excited!

I also live the Toby Stephens version of Jane Eyre. I think that the 2 biggest reasons why I liked the 1983 version so much (okay, 1 of those reasons is pretty superficial) are one-I I love you Dalton-and two-this version was the one that stayed closest to the book, in my opinion. Like the gypsy scene, for example was done exactly as-is in the 1983 version, but not in the 2006 or the other versions. But I liked the 2006 because it captured the mood so nicely.

I can't wait to see how the Ellen Page version of Jane Eyre turns out. I'd love to have another version be on my favorites list...
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PostSubject: Re: Movie/Television Adaptations of Books   Tue Dec 16, 2008 6:08 am

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I wasn't too fond of Pride and Prejudice in the first place. It was too slow for me, and I felt the characters were just frivolous. However, I heard the BBC versions trumps the book--well, my teacher says she loves the movie A LOT better than the book.

Pride and Prejudice would be frivolous and boring if it was plain, Lizzy meets Mr Darcy, Lizzy doesn't like Darcy, Lizzy learns to like him, but what Jane Austen brings out is the depth of character in each individual, and the satire of that time, and the wit, it all transforms into something wonderful and charming.

I completely 100% agree with you. If she hadn't put the sarcasm, wit, or depth into the book, then it would simply be another...I hate to say it...but another Twilight of the 1800s.
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PostSubject: Re: Movie/Television Adaptations of Books   Wed Dec 17, 2008 8:38 am

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I wasn't too fond of Pride and Prejudice in the first place. It was too slow for me, and I felt the characters were just frivolous. However, I heard the BBC versions trumps the book--well, my teacher says she loves the movie A LOT better than the book.

Pride and Prejudice would be frivolous and boring if it was plain, Lizzy meets Mr Darcy, Lizzy doesn't like Darcy, Lizzy learns to like him, but what Jane Austen brings out is the depth of character in each individual, and the satire of that time, and the wit, it all transforms into something wonderful and charming.

I completely 100% agree with you. If she hadn't put the sarcasm, wit, or depth into the book, then it would simply be another...I hate to say it...but another Twilight of the 1800s.

I know! It would be an awful, silly, shallow romance. When I first read a summary, I thought that it was the most pathetic story I had ever heard. But then I tried it because people were always saying it was great, and I was hooked from Pg. 1. I was study from beginning to end. Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Movie/Television Adaptations of Books   Wed Dec 17, 2008 8:13 pm

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I agree with the BBC Pride and Prejudice, but not the BBC Jane Eyre. I couldn't even finish it. The Masterpiece Theatre version with Toby Stephens as Rochester, however, is one of my favorite movies. It was amazing.

I also liked the 1980s Scarlet Pimpernel movie with Anthony Andrews and Jane Seymour. It wasn't anything like the book, but I thought the characters were portrayed perfectly.

Speaking of books made into movies, I come bearing news: Dorian Gray will be made into a film starring Ben Barnes, Jane Eyre will be made starring Ellen Page, and Wuthering Higts will be made (although I don't know who's starring in it. I'm so excited!

Oh no!!! Dammit!!! Ben Barnes!?? Did you see the absolute FIASCO he was in Prince Caspian!? Please NO! Jane Eyre with Ellen Page sounds pretty cool. Wuthering Heights? Intriguing -- where did you find out?

So, Lillian, I take it you didn't like Ben Barnes as Prince Caspian? A lot of people seemed to like him, although it may be because he's good looking and has an accent. (But seriously, I'm not smitten with Ben)

Anyways, I can't wait for these movies! Any news when they're coming out?
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PostSubject: Re: Movie/Television Adaptations of Books   Wed Dec 17, 2008 8:54 pm

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There are some adaptations that are simply wrong from beginning to end, such as the crap they made out of "Memoirs of a Geisha". For this belief, I have several reasons:
- If I want to make a movie out of a book, I try to keep close to the text, but the feel of the movie is an entirely different one (at least to me).
- If I want to make a movie about a world so specific and unfamiliar as the Geishas', I try and do my homework before making obvious, blatant mistakes - I have never, ever seen a movie that presented something in such a twisted, false way.

But most adaptations I have seen were very good. It seems as if movies made from Jane Austen novels could never go wrong, although I am convinced that Keira Knightley is too pretty to be a Lizzie Bennet. Also, I loved Bar Luhrman's "Romeo and Juliet", and "Of Mice and Men" with Jeremy Irons was painfully marvellous.

Keira Knightley was too pretty to be Lizzy, but I think she did a wonderful job, so I forgave her for that. Matthew McFayden was a brilliant Mr Darcy.

Oh dear, that is so true... "Oh yes, his misfortunes have been VERY great indeed!"

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Back on topic: I was really happy to see he was not some gorgeous guy, but rather plain. I wouldn't want Mr Darcy to be ridiculously beautiful, that would ruin it all.

Has anyone seen the Bollywood version, "Bride and Prejudice"?

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PostSubject: Re: Movie/Television Adaptations of Books   Wed Dec 17, 2008 9:04 pm

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There are some adaptations that are simply wrong from beginning to end, such as the crap they made out of "Memoirs of a Geisha". For this belief, I have several reasons:
- If I want to make a movie out of a book, I try to keep close to the text, but the feel of the movie is an entirely different one (at least to me).
- If I want to make a movie about a world so specific and unfamiliar as the Geishas', I try and do my homework before making obvious, blatant mistakes - I have never, ever seen a movie that presented something in such a twisted, false way.

But most adaptations I have seen were very good. It seems as if movies made from Jane Austen novels could never go wrong, although I am convinced that Keira Knightley is too pretty to be a Lizzie Bennet. Also, I loved Bar Luhrman's "Romeo and Juliet", and "Of Mice and Men" with Jeremy Irons was painfully marvellous.

Keira Knightley was too pretty to be Lizzy, but I think she did a wonderful job, so I forgave her for that. Matthew McFayden was a brilliant Mr Darcy.

Oh dear, that is so true... "Oh yes, his misfortunes have been VERY great indeed!"

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Guys, we need a drooling smilie.

Off to find more smilies.

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Back on topic: I was really happy to see he was not some gorgeous guy, but rather plain. I wouldn't want Mr Darcy to be ridiculously beautiful, that would ruin it all.

Has anyone seen the Bollywood version, "Bride and Prejudice"?

Ah, the Bollywood version. Actually, it deviates very, very significantly from the story. Yes, I know some of it was because of the culture and language thing, but it devastated the book, in my opinion. As a movie by itself, though, it was okay. Besides, I think Aishwarya Rai is too pretty to play a main character that is based off Lizzy Bennet.
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